DAVID FOLK THOMAS: Marc, as far as that goes, is that, like Peter just mentioned, devastating? So far, I have not experienced that, but sometimes I see people, and other people say, "Well, they don't look bad." They've lost their hair, but it seems like what Peter said, it's a lot more devastating than those of us on the outside looking in can imagine.
MARC AVRAM, MD: There's a great variety in how much it affects people. I think no one, given the choice, would want to lose their hair. Some people don't like it but accept it. A lot of people really don't like it, but don't really know exactly what they can do to stop it, and some people that we see are really devastated to the point where it impacts their actions and inactions in life. So it can seriously affect people to the point where it paralyzes them in what they do socially and professionally in their life.
DAVID FOLK THOMAS: Like their self-esteem and so forth?
MARC AVRAM, MD: Yes. It can be all different ages. It can be men and women, different backgrounds. It has really nothing to do with education, economic status. It really depends how it affects someone in terms of -- it may affect someone in a very devastating way professionally. Someone who's in front of the camera or someone who needs to be in the public begins to lose their hair. It could be someone who's on a college campus, is the only one in the frat house that's losing their hair and gets teased. So it can make a big impact on people.
DAVID FOLK THOMAS: What different effects, if any, are there between men and women losing hair?